The context: an entirely student generated discussion about some writing basics. I'm just sitting in the corner taking note of how much they "get" and at what level.
Guy in Corner: Is "stance" always about persuasion? What if you're trying to persuade someone who completely disagrees with you?
Guy with giant eyeballs: I think that maybe you can write a paper and hope that you can convince one person who will convince another person who will eventually convince someone who will convince someone important?
Girl with long ponytail: Like Clinton!
Girl with ponytail: Like Clinton! If we could just convince Clinton! Everybody listens to him! (sneer)